1 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:06,610 what we're hearing here in California 2 00:00:11,089 --> 00:00:09,090 where of course we've also legalized it 3 00:00:13,129 --> 00:00:11,099 and we have a lot of our own issues with 4 00:00:15,709 --> 00:00:13,139 it but it seems that everything we're 5 00:00:18,470 --> 00:00:15,719 hearing is that Colorado has been a huge 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:18,480 success so would you agree that it 7 00:00:21,650 --> 00:00:19,770 appears to have been a huge success at 8 00:00:23,630 --> 00:00:21,660 this point yes I would agree with that I 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:23,640 remember the first year we legalized 10 00:00:27,380 --> 00:00:25,650 they were they were seeing what was 11 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:27,390 going right and going wrong they were 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:28,529 rewriting the laws 13 00:00:33,110 --> 00:00:31,170 I was peleg was almost weekly with the 14 00:00:35,209 --> 00:00:33,120 packaging of the edibles there was 100 15 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:35,219 milligrams now they're 10 milligrams the 16 00:00:37,940 --> 00:00:36,210 childproofing 17 00:00:39,979 --> 00:00:37,950 so there was a lot of a lot that they 18 00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:39,989 fixed as it came out so they were on top 19 00:00:43,850 --> 00:00:41,760 of it so I think it has been a great 20 00:00:46,819 --> 00:00:43,860 success yeah well the difference may be 21 00:00:49,220 --> 00:00:46,829 that Colorado has just a lot less going 22 00:00:52,850 --> 00:00:49,230 on than California California is a much 23 00:00:55,580 --> 00:00:52,860 bigger state we've got all kinds of 24 00:00:58,340 --> 00:00:55,590 complicated issues in California and 25 00:01:00,229 --> 00:00:58,350 yeah we legalize marijuana but it seems 26 00:01:02,959 --> 00:01:00,239 like we didn't put a proper focus on 27 00:01:05,179 --> 00:01:02,969 exactly the best practices in 28 00:01:07,820 --> 00:01:05,189 implementing it whereas it sounds to me 29 00:01:09,530 --> 00:01:07,830 as if Colorado really put a lot of 30 00:01:10,609 --> 00:01:09,540 emphasis on making sure that hey if 31 00:01:12,980 --> 00:01:10,619 we're gonna be the first state in the 32 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:12,990 country to do this everybody's gonna be 33 00:01:17,149 --> 00:01:15,810 looking at us and not to mention we're 34 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:17,159 doing this in the face of the federal 35 00:01:21,890 --> 00:01:19,170 government which still says it's illegal 36 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:21,900 you know and we're gonna do this in the 37 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:24,450 proper way so tell us a little bit about 38 00:01:28,460 --> 00:01:26,850 things that were stopping starts you 39 00:01:31,370 --> 00:01:28,470 know they started doing it one way and 40 00:01:34,510 --> 00:01:31,380 then they had to correct it 41 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:34,520 one was the the packaging of the edibles 42 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:36,930 I remember they were doing the 100 43 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:39,090 milligram let's just say chocolate bar 44 00:01:43,429 --> 00:01:41,250 for example it could be anything but say 45 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:43,439 100 milligram chocolate bar I wasn't it 46 00:01:46,910 --> 00:01:45,090 had the little squares that you could 47 00:01:49,039 --> 00:01:46,920 see but no one knew there were 10 48 00:01:50,539 --> 00:01:49,049 milligrams per square and I would hear 49 00:01:52,639 --> 00:01:50,549 stories at people eating the whole 50 00:01:55,310 --> 00:01:52,649 entire chocolate bar and there was also 51 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:55,320 concerns with safety issues as well so 52 00:02:00,560 --> 00:01:57,450 they rewrote those laws to mandate that 53 00:02:03,350 --> 00:02:00,570 the paga see had to be with you so tight 54 00:02:04,580 --> 00:02:03,360 back it's worth 10 mil or 5 mil and so 55 00:02:07,340 --> 00:02:04,590 that was one of the did they be wrote 56 00:02:09,859 --> 00:02:07,350 which was good to see a lot of companies 57 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:09,869 that just popped up out of nowhere with 58 00:02:13,490 --> 00:02:12,690 very nice a little business experience 59 00:02:15,050 --> 00:02:13,500 they 60 00:02:16,790 --> 00:02:15,060 got swallowed up by the big companies 61 00:02:18,470 --> 00:02:16,800 right away they had the big business 62 00:02:20,210 --> 00:02:18,480 heads on their shoulders so certain 63 00:02:23,630 --> 00:02:20,220 things like that did try to work 64 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:23,640 themselves out so on the strength I I 65 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:26,850 know that one thing is that the strength 66 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:28,490 of these things is significantly 67 00:02:35,330 --> 00:02:31,050 stronger than what was typically sold on 68 00:02:38,050 --> 00:02:35,340 the street right yeah oh yeah and people 69 00:02:41,390 --> 00:02:38,060 are winding up in the hospital over 70 00:02:43,130 --> 00:02:41,400 essentially overdosing if there's been 71 00:02:44,900 --> 00:02:43,140 any stores does anybody actually died 72 00:02:46,790 --> 00:02:44,910 from it there had no I 73 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:46,800 last time I checked there have been no 74 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:49,410 deaths from overdosing from marijuana 75 00:02:54,260 --> 00:02:52,650 they do get the panic they get to get 76 00:02:55,460 --> 00:02:54,270 there become afraid it's good they go 77 00:02:57,500 --> 00:02:55,470 get checked in just to be on the safe 78 00:02:59,690 --> 00:02:57,510 side but there's been a lot of those 79 00:03:00,979 --> 00:02:59,700 instances of emergency room visits I 80 00:03:04,220 --> 00:03:00,989 have heard that mm-hm 81 00:03:08,660 --> 00:03:04,230 and in the vaping world we're hearing 82 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:08,670 all this to do about the flavored vapes 83 00:03:13,850 --> 00:03:10,530 you know how that appears to be 84 00:03:15,830 --> 00:03:13,860 appealing to children etc and I mean 85 00:03:17,509 --> 00:03:15,840 don't you have the same issue when 86 00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:17,519 you're when you're putting marijuana and 87 00:03:22,610 --> 00:03:21,209 gummy bears yeah I mean they're purists 88 00:03:25,910 --> 00:03:22,620 out there that won't eat anything that's 89 00:03:28,009 --> 00:03:25,920 not natural or not organic but they are 90 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:28,019 doing the flavored gummies edibles 91 00:03:33,259 --> 00:03:30,330 candies shakes sprays you name it it's 92 00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:33,269 out there drinks sodas and it's like in 93 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:35,310 any year is there been any pushback on 94 00:03:39,530 --> 00:03:36,570 this and saying that hey wait a minute 95 00:03:41,420 --> 00:03:39,540 this seems to be targeted to to children 96 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:41,430 or teenagers there's been a minor 97 00:03:45,289 --> 00:03:43,410 pushback and not that I've seen anything 98 00:03:48,140 --> 00:03:45,299 major happen there are always gonna be 99 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:48,150 groups that oppose those things but the 100 00:03:52,970 --> 00:03:49,650 like I said the packaging they're doing 101 00:03:55,009 --> 00:03:52,980 now is is created to prevent that or 102 00:03:57,650 --> 00:03:55,019 limit that but it's the same thing with 103 00:03:59,569 --> 00:03:57,660 like wine coolers and beers and things 104 00:04:01,910 --> 00:03:59,579 like that had those yummy flavors and 105 00:04:02,930 --> 00:04:01,920 they appeal to anyone especially with 106 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:02,940 the sugar these days 107 00:04:09,710 --> 00:04:06,720 yeah and and what do you hear about the 108 00:04:10,789 --> 00:04:09,720 youth using it because obviously it's 21 109 00:04:13,310 --> 00:04:10,799 and over to buy it 110 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:13,320 what presumably it's more readily 111 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:17,370 available to people under 21 is that 112 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:19,530 been something where usage has gone up 113 00:04:23,990 --> 00:04:21,570 significantly among high schoolers etc 114 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:24,000 the last article I read of the state of 115 00:04:32,089 --> 00:04:27,360 Colorado I heard usage was down 116 00:04:33,679 --> 00:04:32,099 for under 21 and as Batman tracks down 117 00:04:37,550 --> 00:04:33,689 over what period from before 118 00:04:40,820 --> 00:04:37,560 legalization yes before till the last 119 00:04:45,230 --> 00:04:40,830 five years so what is it done to your 120 00:04:47,659 --> 00:04:45,240 old fashioned dealer okay a lot of them 121 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:47,669 did to give it up there's still a lot 122 00:04:51,679 --> 00:04:49,770 that I know that are a business and they 123 00:04:53,540 --> 00:04:51,689 people enjoy going they like they liked 124 00:04:55,490 --> 00:04:53,550 all on the guy and again what they want 125 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:55,500 you know their buddies our friends it's 126 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:57,210 all about marketing and sales who has 127 00:05:01,249 --> 00:04:58,530 the best marketing pitch who has the 128 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:01,259 best nugs the best you know the tightest 129 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:03,330 weed it's it's all about marketing uh 130 00:05:06,890 --> 00:05:04,770 sales I think mm-hmm 131 00:05:09,050 --> 00:05:06,900 so in California supposedly we still 132 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:09,060 have a major problem with illegal sales 133 00:05:13,610 --> 00:05:11,610 and I think you know like 75% of the 134 00:05:15,709 --> 00:05:13,620 sales are still illegal sales they 135 00:05:17,119 --> 00:05:15,719 really haven't gotten it together as far 136 00:05:19,100 --> 00:05:17,129 as the right level of tax it I think 137 00:05:21,170 --> 00:05:19,110 they're taxing it too much you haven't 138 00:05:22,850 --> 00:05:21,180 gotten together as far as the licensing 139 00:05:25,129 --> 00:05:22,860 of the locations you have tons of 140 00:05:28,159 --> 00:05:25,139 locations out there that aren't properly 141 00:05:29,899 --> 00:05:28,169 licensed the growth of it here in 142 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:29,909 California they're having trouble 143 00:05:36,890 --> 00:05:32,810 regulating it we've got Mexican cartels 144 00:05:40,249 --> 00:05:36,900 in California being the lead growers of 145 00:05:42,769 --> 00:05:40,259 marijuana in California they control the 146 00:05:44,779 --> 00:05:42,779 growth of marijuana here in California 147 00:05:47,329 --> 00:05:44,789 and that's for the dispensaries as well 148 00:05:49,670 --> 00:05:47,339 isn't it yeah yeah dispensaries yeah are 149 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:49,680 buying it from cartels are either 150 00:05:54,019 --> 00:05:52,110 knowingly or unknowingly cuz you know 151 00:05:56,589 --> 00:05:54,029 it's hard to know who really is behind 152 00:06:00,110 --> 00:05:56,599 the growth of something up in Humboldt 153 00:06:02,899 --> 00:06:00,120 California in the middle of nowhere but 154 00:06:05,899 --> 00:06:02,909 the truth is that these cartels are so 155 00:06:07,490 --> 00:06:05,909 huge that they have bled across the 156 00:06:09,110 --> 00:06:07,500 border yeah because I imagine they've 157 00:06:11,749 --> 00:06:09,120 got distribution channels obviously 158 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:11,759 across the border down those 159 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:13,650 distribution channels eventually led 160 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:16,650 into them deciding well screw it rather 161 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:18,690 than growing the marijuana here in 162 00:06:22,670 --> 00:06:20,610 Mexico and worrying about how to get it 163 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:22,680 across the border let's just grow it in 164 00:06:29,450 --> 00:06:27,360 California LLC and never actually appear 165 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:29,460 to be legit I wouldn't be surprised that 166 00:06:36,459 --> 00:06:32,490 that exists here in Colorado as well so 167 00:06:39,830 --> 00:06:36,469 what do you know about the major growers 168 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:39,840 in Colorado who are these companies 169 00:06:44,570 --> 00:06:42,210 who owns these companies are they 170 00:06:47,650 --> 00:06:44,580 expanding outside of Colorado are they 171 00:06:49,909 --> 00:06:47,660 going to become you know national 172 00:06:50,450 --> 00:06:49,919 marijuana suppliers coming out of 173 00:06:53,270 --> 00:06:50,460 Colorado 174 00:06:54,980 --> 00:06:53,280 you know Jim there are so many I don't 175 00:06:57,590 --> 00:06:54,990 know who owns them I know a couple that 176 00:07:00,050 --> 00:06:57,600 bigger dispensary uh companies out here 177 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:00,060 I know that native roots has a huge 178 00:07:03,980 --> 00:07:02,370 warehouse they never disclose where it 179 00:07:06,770 --> 00:07:03,990 is or how many acres it is of the 180 00:07:09,409 --> 00:07:06,780 warehouse Live Well is another big 181 00:07:12,230 --> 00:07:09,419 company they have some warehouses I do 182 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:12,240 know that Live Well nest i heard 183 00:07:17,060 --> 00:07:14,970 actually from a gal gal to restaurant 184 00:07:18,770 --> 00:07:17,070 who I think she's she's friends with one 185 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:18,780 of the owners I think they go on public 186 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:20,610 pretty soon so they they may be trying 187 00:07:25,129 --> 00:07:23,610 for a nationwide hold on that I don't 188 00:07:26,810 --> 00:07:25,139 see why they wouldn't I mean these big 189 00:07:28,550 --> 00:07:26,820 companies have a good business model 190 00:07:30,140 --> 00:07:28,560 they had the size and scope and 191 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:30,150 magnitude to supply that type of 192 00:07:34,490 --> 00:07:32,850 marijuana demand I don't see why they 193 00:07:36,860 --> 00:07:34,500 wouldn't go national soon as things were 194 00:07:38,390 --> 00:07:36,870 let up by the feds and what about med 195 00:07:41,510 --> 00:07:38,400 men do you guys have med men 196 00:07:43,010 --> 00:07:41,520 I do believe med man is in Denver area 197 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:43,020 it sounds very familiar there's so many 198 00:07:51,850 --> 00:07:47,610 yet we have almost 700 now 700 retail 199 00:07:54,590 --> 00:07:51,860 locations retail and or medical yes and 200 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:54,600 this huge approximately the this huge 201 00:08:00,830 --> 00:07:56,970 explosion of growth in Colorado 202 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:00,840 generally how much of that is attributed 203 00:08:05,930 --> 00:08:04,050 to this legalization of marijuana you 204 00:08:08,029 --> 00:08:05,940 know at first I could definitely see 205 00:08:10,460 --> 00:08:08,039 that that was the case a lot of people 206 00:08:11,510 --> 00:08:10,470 came here I was noticing that and a lot 207 00:08:12,589 --> 00:08:11,520 of the different restaurants and a lot 208 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:12,599 of different people that I speak with 209 00:08:17,629 --> 00:08:15,330 around the area they did notice if there 210 00:08:19,490 --> 00:08:17,639 was a lot of companies coming in on 211 00:08:22,430 --> 00:08:19,500 having big meetings in the restaurant 212 00:08:24,050 --> 00:08:22,440 setting up shop people that I would just 213 00:08:25,820 --> 00:08:24,060 see out the streets in the Denver area 214 00:08:27,469 --> 00:08:25,830 and in high country everywhere they were 215 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:27,479 here because of that I had people come 216 00:08:31,100 --> 00:08:29,370 to the restaurant over couples 217 00:08:32,899 --> 00:08:31,110 well-spoken well-to-do very polite 218 00:08:35,180 --> 00:08:32,909 they'd sit down at the restaurant they 219 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:35,190 go well we are we're here pop tourists 220 00:08:38,959 --> 00:08:36,930 and they said they want to know where to 221 00:08:40,250 --> 00:08:38,969 go what to do you know what to see so I 222 00:08:42,019 --> 00:08:40,260 would tell them to go to the cool 223 00:08:43,909 --> 00:08:42,029 dispensaries that had the windows where 224 00:08:45,079 --> 00:08:43,919 you guys you see some of the other 225 00:08:47,540 --> 00:08:45,089 plants growing yeah that's actually 226 00:08:49,190 --> 00:08:47,550 pretty neat to see that process now I 227 00:08:51,260 --> 00:08:49,200 assume you've got a lot of people trying 228 00:08:53,220 --> 00:08:51,270 marijuana now that it's legal that had 229 00:08:56,430 --> 00:08:53,230 never tried it before or 230 00:08:57,740 --> 00:08:56,440 really were not users yes that happens a 231 00:09:00,240 --> 00:08:57,750 lot and I tell the people I said listen 232 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:00,250 there's blood tenders that work there 233 00:09:04,470 --> 00:09:02,170 they sell the buzz or flower they call 234 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:04,480 it I said listen to their directions 235 00:09:08,490 --> 00:09:06,610 don't eat whatever you're gonna eat and 236 00:09:10,530 --> 00:09:08,500 think it's not working and then take 237 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:10,540 more within the specified time they told 238 00:09:14,220 --> 00:09:12,250 you to wait that's when you get yourself 239 00:09:15,030 --> 00:09:14,230 in that little panic situation if you're 240 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:15,040 not used to it 241 00:09:18,690 --> 00:09:16,930 whereas some people like to say you get 242 00:09:21,630 --> 00:09:18,700 couch locks for you to cific out you 243 00:09:24,540 --> 00:09:21,640 can't do anything so bottom line 244 00:09:28,010 --> 00:09:24,550 have there been studies about what the 245 00:09:31,020 --> 00:09:28,020 usage is talking about adults now of 246 00:09:33,300 --> 00:09:31,030 marijuana on a regular basis compared to 247 00:09:35,100 --> 00:09:33,310 before it was legalized yes there have 248 00:09:38,540 --> 00:09:35,110 been studies I think there has been a 249 00:09:41,940 --> 00:09:38,550 slight percent increase of that usage 250 00:09:43,230 --> 00:09:41,950 and but nobody's coming out and saying 251 00:09:47,130 --> 00:09:43,240 that that's been a terribly bad thing 252 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:47,140 there's no ill effects that society has 253 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:50,770 seen of having more stoners no I don't 254 00:09:54,090 --> 00:09:51,850 think so they've always they've always 255 00:09:55,950 --> 00:09:54,100 been here I mean it's it's always been 256 00:09:57,810 --> 00:09:55,960 around I've even the states right now or 257 00:10:00,000 --> 00:09:57,820 it's not legal it's there right now I 258 00:10:01,890 --> 00:10:00,010 mean it's always been here it's it's 259 00:10:03,570 --> 00:10:01,900 more prevalent now and I usually tell 260 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:03,580 people when they come and I come in 261 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:04,810 contact with them so you know what just 262 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:08,170 be respectful and be discreet don't give 263 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:10,090 someone who has a major problem with it 264 00:10:16,350 --> 00:10:12,610 a reason to go ahead and make a case 265 00:10:18,330 --> 00:10:16,360 against you because you can get addicted 266 00:10:20,370 --> 00:10:18,340 to marijuana I you know I don't from a 267 00:10:21,870 --> 00:10:20,380 scientific standpoint I know there's a 268 00:10:24,150 --> 00:10:21,880 lot of people that suggest that oh no 269 00:10:26,310 --> 00:10:24,160 you can't be addicted to it or you can't 270 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:26,320 overdose on it I mean as we've already 271 00:10:30,660 --> 00:10:27,850 talked about you can't overdose it 272 00:10:32,850 --> 00:10:30,670 perhaps you you can't die from it or 273 00:10:37,380 --> 00:10:32,860 very unlikely to die from it which is 274 00:10:39,270 --> 00:10:37,390 which is good but you know it's hard for 275 00:10:40,470 --> 00:10:39,280 me to say that you can't get addicted to 276 00:10:42,810 --> 00:10:40,480 it when you've got people that smoke it 277 00:10:44,820 --> 00:10:42,820 every single day yeah I believe there is 278 00:10:47,670 --> 00:10:44,830 a there's a psychological aspect where 279 00:10:49,860 --> 00:10:47,680 there can be addiction issues with that 280 00:10:52,650 --> 00:10:49,870 I do believe that so the car is anything 281 00:10:54,210 --> 00:10:52,660 so even if the let's assume the numbers 282 00:10:57,090 --> 00:10:54,220 have gone up so you've got more stoners 283 00:10:59,730 --> 00:10:57,100 now in Colorado which is not necessarily 284 00:11:02,400 --> 00:10:59,740 a good thing but what has it done to 285 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:02,410 something like alcohol usage because 286 00:11:06,370 --> 00:11:05,410 just anecdotally here in LA I can tell 287 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:06,380 you among my friend 288 00:11:10,090 --> 00:11:08,330 and so forth it seems you know I've got 289 00:11:12,430 --> 00:11:10,100 a number of friends that seem to now 290 00:11:15,250 --> 00:11:12,440 smoke marijuana in lieu of drinking 291 00:11:17,890 --> 00:11:15,260 alcohol their head it's been a lot of 292 00:11:19,870 --> 00:11:17,900 man I do that sometimes I rarely partake 293 00:11:21,550 --> 00:11:19,880 anymore it's too strong for me they call 294 00:11:23,530 --> 00:11:21,560 me the mediocre togar I'll make the 295 00:11:26,140 --> 00:11:23,540 one-hit wonder so I may have something 296 00:11:27,670 --> 00:11:26,150 small five milligram gummies in my 297 00:11:29,620 --> 00:11:27,680 backpack while I'm working if I don't 298 00:11:31,420 --> 00:11:29,630 want to drink while I'm working after 299 00:11:33,370 --> 00:11:31,430 work or doing you know just at the end 300 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:33,380 of the shift cuz tricky kills me it 301 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:34,850 takes me three days now with a hangover 302 00:11:38,380 --> 00:11:36,890 so in order this to ease at the end of 303 00:11:40,300 --> 00:11:38,390 the shift to get my cleaning and closing 304 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:40,310 done I'm anything a little five gram by 305 00:11:44,500 --> 00:11:42,410 milligram gummy and that's just that's 306 00:11:46,390 --> 00:11:44,510 not for drinking I do like that I had 307 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:46,400 friends do the same thing and there's 308 00:11:50,170 --> 00:11:48,170 there's essentially no hangover from it 309 00:11:52,540 --> 00:11:50,180 the next day now now that at all yeah 310 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:52,550 nothing yeah I think you need to compare 311 00:11:58,300 --> 00:11:55,370 everything to alcohol it seems to me 312 00:11:59,980 --> 00:11:58,310 that if you have alcohol be legal if you 313 00:12:01,900 --> 00:11:59,990 look at anything else and whether or not 314 00:12:05,050 --> 00:12:01,910 it should be legal say okay well is it 315 00:12:06,370 --> 00:12:05,060 worse than alcohol I mean there's some 316 00:12:09,270 --> 00:12:06,380 pretty good arguments that it doesn't 317 00:12:12,460 --> 00:12:09,280 get any worse than alcohol as far as 318 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:12,470 addiction potential impairment of 319 00:12:18,100 --> 00:12:15,770 driving what it does to your health what 320 00:12:20,590 --> 00:12:18,110 it does to your brain because what 321 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:20,600 people do while they're on alcohol it's 322 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:24,890 a really really bad drug yeah it is one 323 00:12:29,290 --> 00:12:27,050 of my good friends in town here he was 324 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:29,300 in law enforcement for thirty years he's 325 00:12:34,660 --> 00:12:32,450 not retired he says he has never broken 326 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:34,670 up a fight between two stoners in his 327 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:36,770 entire career and he has a funny thing 328 00:12:42,570 --> 00:12:38,210 about alcohol he's like he's like he's 329 00:12:46,090 --> 00:12:42,580 like instant [\h__\h] just that alcohol 330 00:12:49,780 --> 00:12:46,100 right right so you know that's why you 331 00:12:51,490 --> 00:12:49,790 know high level what people need to be 332 00:12:54,490 --> 00:12:51,500 looking at Colorado for I believe is 333 00:12:57,250 --> 00:12:54,500 deciding okay are how is this experiment 334 00:13:00,400 --> 00:12:57,260 going is it time for the rest of the 335 00:13:02,050 --> 00:13:00,410 country to adopt what Colorado is doing 336 00:13:04,780 --> 00:13:02,060 and for the federal government to 337 00:13:07,450 --> 00:13:04,790 finally step back and say hey we're 338 00:13:09,070 --> 00:13:07,460 gonna leave it up to the states I think 339 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:09,080 so I think it's time for all the states 340 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:10,850 to do this there's been no major 341 00:13:16,540 --> 00:13:13,970 repercussions in Colorado some states 342 00:13:18,310 --> 00:13:16,550 could use the revenue I do know that I 343 00:13:19,990 --> 00:13:18,320 mean I would have preferred in the very 344 00:13:22,180 --> 00:13:20,000 beginning in 2014 345 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:22,190 that all 50 states went vegan at the 346 00:13:27,310 --> 00:13:24,970 same time instead of just Colorado first 347 00:13:29,650 --> 00:13:27,320 well the absurd thing is the fact that 348 00:13:33,220 --> 00:13:29,660 the federal government has any say about 349 00:13:34,810 --> 00:13:33,230 it I mean right the incursion of the 350 00:13:38,050 --> 00:13:34,820 federal government upon the states has 351 00:13:39,730 --> 00:13:38,060 been insane you know compared to the way 352 00:13:41,980 --> 00:13:39,740 it was originally set up that this is 353 00:13:44,230 --> 00:13:41,990 gonna be a you know states rights and 354 00:13:45,460 --> 00:13:44,240 states deciding things that involve just 355 00:13:47,560 --> 00:13:45,470 the state you know for instance simple 356 00:13:50,050 --> 00:13:47,570 things like the drinking age the 357 00:13:51,670 --> 00:13:50,060 drinking age is 21 in every single state 358 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:51,680 why is that because the federal 359 00:13:56,500 --> 00:13:54,050 government said that if you want your 360 00:13:59,140 --> 00:13:56,510 highway funds you got to make your 361 00:14:01,300 --> 00:13:59,150 drinking age 21 so they take money from 362 00:14:03,460 --> 00:14:01,310 us and then they say we'll give it back 363 00:14:06,460 --> 00:14:03,470 to you provided you follow our rules 364 00:14:08,020 --> 00:14:06,470 yeah huge backdoor into the federal 365 00:14:09,190 --> 00:14:08,030 government controlling what happens to 366 00:14:11,830 --> 00:14:09,200 say so one of the coolest things about 367 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:11,840 America is the fact that the states are 368 00:14:15,910 --> 00:14:13,850 so diverse compared to other countries 369 00:14:17,380 --> 00:14:15,920 you can go to New Orleans and have this 370 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:17,390 totally different experience you can go 371 00:14:20,650 --> 00:14:18,890 to Miami you can go to New York you can 372 00:14:22,510 --> 00:14:20,660 go to LA you can go to Denver and get 373 00:14:24,790 --> 00:14:22,520 this almost feel like you're in a 374 00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:24,800 different country but yeah the larger 375 00:14:29,980 --> 00:14:26,000 you make the federal government the more 376 00:14:34,770 --> 00:14:29,990 you hand over decisions to Washington DC 377 00:14:41,530 --> 00:14:37,930 you know you're losing that uniqueness 378 00:14:43,329 --> 00:14:41,540 of America and so I applaud Colorado for 379 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:43,339 having the guts to stand up to the 380 00:14:48,910 --> 00:14:45,970 federal government and legalize this 381 00:14:51,070 --> 00:14:48,920 because you know they're doing it in the 382 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:51,080 face of the federal government having 383 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:53,810 such new legal yeah it was fun to see 384 00:14:57,970 --> 00:14:55,370 that the first few years people are 385 00:14:59,890 --> 00:14:57,980 still very apprehensive she may actually 386 00:15:02,530 --> 00:14:59,900 even I mean I know it's illegal 387 00:15:05,079 --> 00:15:02,540 federally all this stuff I mean people 388 00:15:06,579 --> 00:15:05,089 been doing that forever already so now 389 00:15:08,410 --> 00:15:06,589 that the state's behind it and he had a 390 00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:08,420 little bit of a Christian I think that 391 00:15:12,130 --> 00:15:09,920 the federal government had an attitude 392 00:15:14,530 --> 00:15:12,140 of as long as the states are controlling 393 00:15:15,850 --> 00:15:14,540 it and they're there they're watching 394 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:15,860 their own state making sure does he had 395 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:18,170 control but the regulations the taxes 396 00:15:22,329 --> 00:15:20,330 the licensing they're gonna kind of keep 397 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:22,339 a hands-off approach so that that's what 398 00:15:25,750 --> 00:15:24,410 I've heard from the higher-ups and the 399 00:15:29,530 --> 00:15:25,760 big dispensaries that I had to 400 00:15:30,460 --> 00:15:29,540 interviewed but what about credit cards 401 00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:30,470 and that kind of thing is my 402 00:15:33,550 --> 00:15:32,510 understanding that still very difficult 403 00:15:35,470 --> 00:15:33,560 to use 404 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:35,480 for four banks to get involved in this 405 00:15:39,340 --> 00:15:37,310 because banks are federally regulated 406 00:15:42,010 --> 00:15:39,350 and banks cannot be involved in federal 407 00:15:44,740 --> 00:15:42,020 crimes right it is still you know 408 00:15:46,780 --> 00:15:44,750 federally some some dispensaries are you 409 00:15:49,570 --> 00:15:46,790 allowing debit cards I don't know what 410 00:15:51,250 --> 00:15:49,580 your loophole is the issue with the ATM 411 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:51,260 machines that are in there again because 412 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:53,330 those are owned by banks some of them so 413 00:15:58,300 --> 00:15:55,730 it's it's a it's a very gray area and a 414 00:16:00,840 --> 00:15:58,310 lot of dispensaries are accepting some 415 00:16:04,180 --> 00:16:00,850 sort of card I think there's a new 416 00:16:06,190 --> 00:16:04,190 marijuana credit card just for marijuana 417 00:16:07,750 --> 00:16:06,200 purchases it's coming out I heard about 418 00:16:10,750 --> 00:16:07,760 it just about six months ago 419 00:16:12,010 --> 00:16:10,760 oh there's groundbreaking ideas that are 420 00:16:14,650 --> 00:16:12,020 happening almost daily within the 421 00:16:19,510 --> 00:16:14,660 industry uh-huh seems like a good thing 422 00:16:23,079 --> 00:16:19,520 to use Bitcoin to buy other than the 423 00:16:24,579 --> 00:16:23,089 value of fluctuates about 20% but but 424 00:16:26,890 --> 00:16:24,589 anyway back to my point about federal I 425 00:16:28,690 --> 00:16:26,900 mean again credit to Colorado for 426 00:16:30,310 --> 00:16:28,700 experimenting this this is what you want 427 00:16:31,660 --> 00:16:30,320 is a situation where you get 50 states 428 00:16:33,460 --> 00:16:31,670 that can experiment with different 429 00:16:34,990 --> 00:16:33,470 things in other states and watch and see 430 00:16:37,870 --> 00:16:35,000 how does it work in that state then we 431 00:16:40,510 --> 00:16:37,880 can decide what to do you know you got a 432 00:16:43,450 --> 00:16:40,520 monopoly when it's all controlled by 433 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:43,460 Washington DC not to mention it's so far 434 00:16:48,310 --> 00:16:46,250 removed you know what people know in 435 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:48,320 Washington DC compared you you know as 436 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:49,850 to what should be going on in Idaho or 437 00:16:55,180 --> 00:16:51,770 Colorado or Washington I mean sure 438 00:16:57,430 --> 00:16:55,190 absurd so there's a lot of things that 439 00:16:59,050 --> 00:16:57,440 should be repealed and allow and to be 440 00:17:00,760 --> 00:16:59,060 given back to the states you know 441 00:17:03,670 --> 00:17:00,770 control over alcohol control over 442 00:17:07,750 --> 00:17:03,680 drinking age you know speed limits all 443 00:17:13,199 --> 00:17:07,760 kinds of different things the next issue 444 00:17:16,120 --> 00:17:13,209 is you know marijuana should it expand 445 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:16,130 to the rest of the country and then 446 00:17:20,919 --> 00:17:18,770 you've got the other drugs so what is 447 00:17:24,460 --> 00:17:20,929 going on in Colorado regarding now 448 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:24,470 saying okay marijuana looks good you 449 00:17:29,050 --> 00:17:26,569 know no major problems what are we gonna 450 00:17:33,010 --> 00:17:29,060 legalize next isn't it didn't Denver 451 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:33,020 legalize LSD no it wasn't LSD it was 452 00:17:37,919 --> 00:17:35,810 mushrooms mushrooms yes I was selling 453 00:17:40,540 --> 00:17:37,929 yeah and what do you know about the 454 00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:40,550 decriminalize and still relatively new 455 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:43,520 and I haven't heard much on that on good 456 00:17:46,990 --> 00:17:45,290 or bad so I'm not sure what's going on 457 00:17:47,380 --> 00:17:47,000 with that I know they're experimenting 458 00:17:49,630 --> 00:17:47,390 with we 459 00:17:52,690 --> 00:17:49,640 search and I think I was doing this 460 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:52,700 whole new micro dosing mic reducing fad 461 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:54,770 to see if it increased increases focus 462 00:17:58,530 --> 00:17:57,290 oh no once I have drinks to me I'm not 463 00:18:02,650 --> 00:17:58,540 gonna microdose I'm gonna get them all 464 00:18:05,250 --> 00:18:02,660 right right look is my record is right 465 00:18:07,870 --> 00:18:05,260 so what what the the micro dosing is 466 00:18:10,870 --> 00:18:07,880 using it for some type of a mental 467 00:18:13,270 --> 00:18:10,880 health purpose right I think it is for a 468 00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:13,280 relief of anxiety and increasing 469 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:15,440 increase of focus as well mm-hmm 470 00:18:19,090 --> 00:18:17,090 there's many benefits I haven't 471 00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:19,100 researched that yet but I have been 472 00:18:25,620 --> 00:18:22,310 hearing about it and what about the the 473 00:18:28,870 --> 00:18:25,630 big issue with the the vape pens and 474 00:18:32,230 --> 00:18:28,880 whether they're causing all kinds of 475 00:18:36,250 --> 00:18:32,240 serious health problems and so on this 476 00:18:38,890 --> 00:18:36,260 vitamin E oil that supposedly has ill 477 00:18:40,990 --> 00:18:38,900 effects is that a big topic in Colorado 478 00:18:42,970 --> 00:18:41,000 I haven't heard of the vitamin D but 479 00:18:45,820 --> 00:18:42,980 vaping is a big issue whether it's the 480 00:18:48,340 --> 00:18:45,830 the e-cigarettes or the cannabis and I 481 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:48,350 again with that it just depends on who 482 00:18:53,110 --> 00:18:50,690 finds that study because right now I you 483 00:18:56,140 --> 00:18:53,120 hear you hear both arguments both sides 484 00:18:58,480 --> 00:18:56,150 and they're both convincing so it's hard 485 00:19:00,640 --> 00:18:58,490 to understand what actually is and is 486 00:19:02,770 --> 00:19:00,650 not good for you it depends on who funds 487 00:19:04,090 --> 00:19:02,780 the study so that's it's just crazy to 488 00:19:07,150 --> 00:19:04,100 hear all the other the input from that 489 00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:07,160 and bottom line right now where is it 490 00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:11,120 legal to smoke it and where is it legal 491 00:19:18,700 --> 00:19:14,240 to be under the influence of it in your 492 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:18,710 home it's not legal in federal lands so 493 00:19:23,260 --> 00:19:21,290 ski resorts are not you cannot partake 494 00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:23,270 in there so they stated doing your own 495 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:25,520 residence or permission what about if 496 00:19:31,270 --> 00:19:28,610 I'm standing on a sidewalk no you cannot 497 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:31,280 smoke in the open and what about can i 498 00:19:34,330 --> 00:19:33,050 smoke a cigarette on the sidewalk you 499 00:19:36,010 --> 00:19:34,340 can't if you if you just smoked 500 00:19:39,180 --> 00:19:36,020 marijuana sidewalk you can get a ticket 501 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:39,190 that is similar to an open container law 502 00:19:45,970 --> 00:19:43,490 mm-hmm so yeah I mean and what about 503 00:19:47,890 --> 00:19:45,980 fine but what what if it was determined 504 00:19:50,410 --> 00:19:47,900 that I was under the influence of it on 505 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:50,420 a sidewalk I smoked it at home or took a 506 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:53,090 gummy at home and now I'm walking around 507 00:19:56,590 --> 00:19:55,010 under the influence of it like a public 508 00:19:57,370 --> 00:19:56,600 intoxication to get there who that 509 00:19:59,920 --> 00:19:57,380 beam's yeah 510 00:20:00,880 --> 00:19:59,930 yeah a public public stoners public 511 00:20:02,860 --> 00:20:00,890 staring 512 00:20:04,149 --> 00:20:02,870 I'm sure something does exist I haven't 513 00:20:06,460 --> 00:20:04,159 heard that but I know you can get it 514 00:20:10,269 --> 00:20:06,470 open container law or first book in 515 00:20:12,549 --> 00:20:10,279 public mm-hmm so bottom line it's it's 516 00:20:17,620 --> 00:20:12,559 way more restrictive right now than 517 00:20:21,759 --> 00:20:17,630 alcohol is where it can be consumed in 518 00:20:24,669 --> 00:20:21,769 bars and restaurants marijuana is home 519 00:20:26,860 --> 00:20:24,679 only yeah I believe that it's very 520 00:20:29,769 --> 00:20:26,870 restrictive here I mean we're due to it 521 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:29,779 it was it was against the law for 80 522 00:20:33,310 --> 00:20:31,370 something years and now it's legal it 523 00:20:35,049 --> 00:20:33,320 was always considered taboo you had 524 00:20:36,399 --> 00:20:35,059 those crazy movies come out in the 525 00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:36,409 thirties and forties to reefer madness 526 00:20:41,169 --> 00:20:38,720 that made you think it was the devil's 527 00:20:42,669 --> 00:20:41,179 weed so there is a lot of stigma about 528 00:20:45,580 --> 00:20:42,679 that that's why they're under the 529 00:20:48,220 --> 00:20:45,590 microscope and a senator staged for the 530 00:20:50,139 --> 00:20:48,230 nation to really control how it's being 531 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:50,149 consumed where it's being consumed the 532 00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:53,570 licensing taxes regulations all that so 533 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:54,529 I mean they're doing a pretty good job 534 00:20:58,330 --> 00:20:56,210 of it and I think that you know it 535 00:21:01,060 --> 00:20:58,340 remains to be seen in the next few years 536 00:21:03,820 --> 00:21:01,070 I said next five years if it was indeed 537 00:21:06,759 --> 00:21:03,830 a good idea or a bad idea have a better 538 00:21:08,860 --> 00:21:06,769 better idea then and what do you know 539 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:08,870 about driving under the influence of it 540 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:11,090 I understand that they've passed some 541 00:21:18,850 --> 00:21:13,610 law to try to create kind of a you know 542 00:21:20,019 --> 00:21:18,860 0.08 equivalent for marijuana yeah 543 00:21:22,629 --> 00:21:20,029 they're trying to measure the level of 544 00:21:24,940 --> 00:21:22,639 th active it's just the active THC in 545 00:21:27,129 --> 00:21:24,950 your bloodstream there's a saliva swab 546 00:21:28,629 --> 00:21:27,139 there's a blood test they're still 547 00:21:31,810 --> 00:21:28,639 trying to figure that out nothing is 548 00:21:33,519 --> 00:21:31,820 real is definitive enough yeah isn't it 549 00:21:34,899 --> 00:21:33,529 I think isn't the tricky part with 550 00:21:36,730 --> 00:21:34,909 alcohol they seem to have a pretty good 551 00:21:38,740 --> 00:21:36,740 gauge as to how much is in your 552 00:21:39,909 --> 00:21:38,750 bloodstream and and how much goes out of 553 00:21:42,190 --> 00:21:39,919 your bloodstream over a certain period 554 00:21:44,529 --> 00:21:42,200 of time whereas THC kind of really 555 00:21:48,129 --> 00:21:44,539 varies from person to person as to how 556 00:21:50,529 --> 00:21:48,139 people react to it and how long it stays 557 00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:50,539 in your system exactly it's what you 558 00:21:54,700 --> 00:21:52,000 consume first of all whether it be 559 00:21:57,519 --> 00:21:54,710 concentrate it could be flour it could 560 00:21:59,500 --> 00:21:57,529 be edibles could be topicals there's a 561 00:22:02,740 --> 00:21:59,510 lot that you can consume it in many ways 562 00:22:04,210 --> 00:22:02,750 how you consumed it your level of 563 00:22:07,029 --> 00:22:04,220 consumption if you're like again you 564 00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:07,039 know a habitual user habitual you know 565 00:22:10,419 --> 00:22:08,960 smoker it's gonna affect you a lot 566 00:22:12,399 --> 00:22:10,429 definitely to someone who's never tried 567 00:22:13,210 --> 00:22:12,409 it before there's a lot of variables 568 00:22:14,109 --> 00:22:13,220 that's why they're having so much 569 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:14,119 trouble 570 00:22:18,189 --> 00:22:16,369 trying to pinpoint a device that can 571 00:22:20,469 --> 00:22:18,199 actually measure the active level of THC 572 00:22:22,719 --> 00:22:20,479 so do you hear about though people 573 00:22:23,769 --> 00:22:22,729 getting convicted of driving under the 574 00:22:26,349 --> 00:22:23,779 influence of marijuana 575 00:22:28,509 --> 00:22:26,359 I've heard of charges yes but I haven't 576 00:22:30,609 --> 00:22:28,519 heard I've heard of convictions yet I'm 577 00:22:33,309 --> 00:22:30,619 sure there are I just haven't heard in 578 00:22:36,189 --> 00:22:33,319 my area man and what about no horrendous 579 00:22:38,049 --> 00:22:36,199 stories about a major car accident where 580 00:22:39,099 --> 00:22:38,059 there were deaths that it turned out the 581 00:22:43,209 --> 00:22:39,109 person was under the influence of 582 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:43,219 marijuana no I have not heard that they 583 00:22:48,069 --> 00:22:46,129 tend to drive very slowly and yes it is 584 00:22:49,629 --> 00:22:48,079 a slower of anything well where is me 585 00:22:50,919 --> 00:22:49,639 more than alcohol of marijuana is 586 00:22:53,679 --> 00:22:50,929 texting and driving that's that's 587 00:22:54,969 --> 00:22:53,689 horrifying I see a goose Oh God almost a 588 00:22:57,999 --> 00:22:54,979 third of the cars out there doing it 589 00:23:00,159 --> 00:22:58,009 it's crazy yeah well it seems to me that 590 00:23:02,469 --> 00:23:00,169 they could test for marijuana just the 591 00:23:04,989 --> 00:23:02,479 old-fashioned way I mean before we had 592 00:23:06,939 --> 00:23:04,999 blood test for alcohol you know there 593 00:23:09,579 --> 00:23:06,949 was probably the old-fashioned side of 594 00:23:12,009 --> 00:23:09,589 the road test you know touch your nose 595 00:23:13,899 --> 00:23:12,019 and put one foot in front of the other 596 00:23:16,089 --> 00:23:13,909 I would think why isn't that a 597 00:23:19,749 --> 00:23:16,099 sufficient test to see if somebody is 598 00:23:21,789 --> 00:23:19,759 too stoned to be driving I'm not sure 599 00:23:25,299 --> 00:23:21,799 that it affects coordination as much as 600 00:23:27,159 --> 00:23:25,309 alcohol does I if anything he'd be 601 00:23:29,259 --> 00:23:27,169 slower I mean there's there's a giveaway 602 00:23:31,689 --> 00:23:29,269 sighs your eyes are bloodshot you're 603 00:23:33,969 --> 00:23:31,699 slow to react you know there's no signs 604 00:23:35,739 --> 00:23:33,979 but I'm not sure if it's that so maybe 605 00:23:38,619 --> 00:23:35,749 it's more you'd have to be testing 606 00:23:41,139 --> 00:23:38,629 reaction time or maybe hand and I think 607 00:23:45,249 --> 00:23:41,149 so in that kind of thing yeah forgive 608 00:23:50,349 --> 00:23:45,259 the pizza test Cystic over the pizza and 609 00:23:56,039 --> 00:23:50,359 what about what about crime is crime up 610 00:23:59,199 --> 00:23:56,049 or down since this was first introduced 611 00:24:01,119 --> 00:23:59,209 like I said anecdotally in my opinion I 612 00:24:04,059 --> 00:24:01,129 believe crime is up but that could be a 613 00:24:06,489 --> 00:24:04,069 result of the increase in population the 614 00:24:09,219 --> 00:24:06,499 population here really has jumped up a 615 00:24:11,049 --> 00:24:09,229 lot in the past I'd say five years and 616 00:24:11,649 --> 00:24:11,059 you can't attribute that just to 617 00:24:14,679 --> 00:24:11,659 marijuana 618 00:24:16,509 --> 00:24:14,689 some people will I'm not sure what is 619 00:24:18,219 --> 00:24:16,519 from but with an increase of population 620 00:24:20,319 --> 00:24:18,229 like that you'd have an increase in 621 00:24:22,539 --> 00:24:20,329 crime it's hard to say I do notice that 622 00:24:24,579 --> 00:24:22,549 petty crime kind of jumped up a little 623 00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:24,589 bit the first couple years Anjali people 624 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:27,049 break into the cars and just steal and 625 00:24:29,890 --> 00:24:28,010 make the change and 626 00:24:32,980 --> 00:24:29,900 small things just to piss you off your 627 00:24:34,180 --> 00:24:32,990 ski equipment when I stuff like that one 628 00:24:35,740 --> 00:24:34,190 of the things I like to say about 629 00:24:38,260 --> 00:24:35,750 anything that you make illegal is you 630 00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:38,270 create crime simply by making something 631 00:24:46,450 --> 00:24:40,880 allele right so yeah so drugs being 632 00:24:50,170 --> 00:24:46,460 illegal you create a you create a whole 633 00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:50,180 underground crime Network to sell the 634 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:53,840 drugs and then create underground 635 00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:56,810 enforcement network for when the guy 636 00:25:01,150 --> 00:24:59,120 rips you off on the drug deal because 637 00:25:03,310 --> 00:25:01,160 when somebody doesn't pay you or gives 638 00:25:05,620 --> 00:25:03,320 you bad drugs or what have you you you 639 00:25:07,510 --> 00:25:05,630 can't go to the police so you have 640 00:25:09,790 --> 00:25:07,520 underground enforcement and that's 641 00:25:11,380 --> 00:25:09,800 basically the gangs I mean the gangs at 642 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:11,390 least in Los Angeles are the primary 643 00:25:17,170 --> 00:25:13,730 sellers of drugs or you know the 644 00:25:19,270 --> 00:25:17,180 extensions of the of the cartels so the 645 00:25:21,900 --> 00:25:19,280 more drugs that you make legal the more 646 00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:21,910 hurt you put on these criminal 647 00:25:28,180 --> 00:25:25,520 syndicates right this is the major 648 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:28,190 crimes would increase when you make 649 00:25:32,500 --> 00:25:30,170 something illegal that was the rise of 650 00:25:34,450 --> 00:25:32,510 the whole empire the East Coast of 651 00:25:40,150 --> 00:25:34,460 Chicago in New York back in the 20s in 652 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:40,160 the the outlawed alcohol yeah that kind 653 00:25:43,030 --> 00:25:41,810 of we don't see that much wrong I live 654 00:25:45,460 --> 00:25:43,040 I'm in the high country the mountain 655 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:45,470 areas that isn't Denver though there are 656 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:47,810 gangs in Denver yeah yeah I'm sure 657 00:25:52,810 --> 00:25:49,810 there's gangs in Denver that have been 658 00:25:54,940 --> 00:25:52,820 had some level of hurt been put upon 659 00:25:57,910 --> 00:25:54,950 them as far as encroaching on their 660 00:26:01,240 --> 00:25:57,920 marijuana sales oh yeah now it may just 661 00:26:03,970 --> 00:26:01,250 cause them to push other drugs you know 662 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:03,980 you have this increase in painkillers 663 00:26:11,380 --> 00:26:07,490 and opium and miyoei I should say yeah 664 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:11,390 in the u.s. you know you see the cartels 665 00:26:15,460 --> 00:26:13,970 in Mexico they've I think lost a lot of 666 00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:15,470 business over the legalization of 667 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:17,600 marijuana at least bringing it across 668 00:26:24,490 --> 00:26:21,650 and so they turn to heroin and another 669 00:26:26,020 --> 00:26:24,500 drug so that that's why I you know I 670 00:26:28,060 --> 00:26:26,030 think at the end of the day the answer 671 00:26:31,990 --> 00:26:28,070 has got to be just to legalize at all 672 00:26:36,220 --> 00:26:32,000 because otherwise the these these gangs 673 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:36,230 and these cartels they're gonna go into 674 00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:39,410 survival mode so you you make one thing 675 00:26:42,779 --> 00:26:40,960 illegal or legal 676 00:26:44,940 --> 00:26:42,789 one thing they're gonna push the other 677 00:26:47,669 --> 00:26:44,950 thing yeah that's a good theory yeah 678 00:26:49,220 --> 00:26:47,679 that's not a horrible idea let's not do 679 00:26:51,779 --> 00:26:49,230 it Colorado though someone else 680 00:26:54,269 --> 00:26:51,789 experiment first well we have 50 states 681 00:26:56,669 --> 00:26:54,279 to choose from for one of them to choose 682 00:26:59,060 --> 00:26:56,679 to do it well my little pet idea which 683 00:27:03,210 --> 00:26:59,070 is pretty similar sounds like to how 684 00:27:04,139 --> 00:27:03,220 Colorado has done this is legalized the 685 00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:04,149 sale of it 686 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:07,510 but still keep the use of it very very 687 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:10,690 restrictive because it's the sale of it 688 00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:13,570 that creates the gangs and the crime and 689 00:27:18,029 --> 00:27:15,279 write the underground enforcement 690 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:18,039 networks and so on so if it's legal to 691 00:27:23,610 --> 00:27:22,210 buy it and you don't overtax it but then 692 00:27:25,250 --> 00:27:23,620 you really restrict the use of it I 693 00:27:28,830 --> 00:27:25,260 think that you create the perfect 694 00:27:30,299 --> 00:27:28,840 scenario so let's say that we're talking 695 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:30,309 about let's pick a drug like cocaine 696 00:27:35,159 --> 00:27:32,770 that's pretty controversial but kind of 697 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:35,169 the next step from marijuana right if 698 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:36,970 you could say it's legal to buy cocaine 699 00:27:42,090 --> 00:27:40,210 at a dispensary what it's a sealed 700 00:27:43,799 --> 00:27:42,100 container so you can't be out in public 701 00:27:46,889 --> 00:27:43,809 with an open container similar with 702 00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:46,899 alcohol right you can only use it at 703 00:27:53,159 --> 00:27:49,600 home which is same with marijuana right 704 00:27:54,570 --> 00:27:53,169 and I might even add an additional rule 705 00:27:56,190 --> 00:27:54,580 that says that you also can't be under 706 00:28:00,450 --> 00:27:56,200 the influence of it outside of your home 707 00:28:04,409 --> 00:28:00,460 so that gives the police lots of breadth 708 00:28:07,230 --> 00:28:04,419 of enforcement to still be tough on drug 709 00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:07,240 use right but you've made it legal to 710 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:09,840 buy at least and so now you've wiped out 711 00:28:15,389 --> 00:28:13,090 whole cards see income exactly yeah 712 00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:15,399 whole underground economy underground 713 00:28:19,220 --> 00:28:16,809 enforcement when it comes to marijuana 714 00:28:22,889 --> 00:28:19,230 cocaine and then you could keep going 715 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:22,899 beyond that heroin and the other so you 716 00:28:27,779 --> 00:28:25,690 you've managed to legalize the sale of 717 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:27,789 it but make the use of it and very very 718 00:28:33,060 --> 00:28:30,490 restrictive alright well that reminds me 719 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:33,070 about alcohol is I mean you know safety 720 00:28:36,779 --> 00:28:34,809 of that you go to buy it you know you 721 00:28:38,940 --> 00:28:36,789 can't drink it in your car or drive on 722 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:38,950 it and you can't do it in public do it 723 00:28:42,779 --> 00:28:40,210 your home but the thing is is that 724 00:28:44,970 --> 00:28:42,789 there's more more issues of problems 725 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:44,980 with alcohol use than anything that I 726 00:28:50,399 --> 00:28:48,010 that I've experienced in my life yeah so 727 00:28:52,919 --> 00:28:50,409 I know your book is about a lot of funny 728 00:28:54,930 --> 00:28:52,929 and interesting anecdotes about Colorado 729 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:54,940 being the first state and in 730 00:28:57,900 --> 00:28:56,650 what it was like and the experience is 731 00:29:00,030 --> 00:28:57,910 there one of the funny things that I've 732 00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:00,040 heard is about your airport so tell us 733 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:01,150 what you know about the airport because 734 00:29:05,670 --> 00:29:03,730 it's my understanding that you're not 735 00:29:08,730 --> 00:29:05,680 supposed to leave the state obviously if 736 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:08,740 you're flying there's illegal so so the 737 00:29:13,650 --> 00:29:10,810 trash cans of the Denver Airport are 738 00:29:16,650 --> 00:29:13,660 filled with weed no it's that they their 739 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:16,660 code biggest put amnesty boxes so for 740 00:29:21,660 --> 00:29:18,250 example if you get to the airport you uh 741 00:29:23,490 --> 00:29:21,670 oh I forgot I had this in my pocket with 742 00:29:25,020 --> 00:29:23,500 this funny in itself and then you can 743 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:25,030 actually put whatever drug you have in 744 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:27,250 this amnesty box and you can I get in 745 00:29:30,150 --> 00:29:28,690 trouble for it you you actually just 746 00:29:31,860 --> 00:29:30,160 surrendered it right there and you gotta 747 00:29:33,630 --> 00:29:31,870 fly without it so yeah these amnesty 748 00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:33,640 boxes which were I think there are a lot 749 00:29:37,380 --> 00:29:35,200 so you take it back in there and try to 750 00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:37,390 go for the box if they get help so 751 00:29:43,290 --> 00:29:40,240 gotcha so that's just before security I 752 00:29:46,020 --> 00:29:43,300 guess you know I I think it was before 753 00:29:49,740 --> 00:29:46,030 security yeah but was actually near the 754 00:29:53,490 --> 00:29:49,750 check-in - but do you hear much about 755 00:29:55,470 --> 00:29:53,500 people being busted at security with 756 00:29:57,170 --> 00:29:55,480 marijuana I mean they actually is 757 00:29:59,490 --> 00:29:57,180 anybody actually checking for that I 758 00:30:02,580 --> 00:29:59,500 have not heard many stories about that 759 00:30:04,770 --> 00:30:02,590 I'm sure it happens I haven't heard many 760 00:30:06,750 --> 00:30:04,780 stories about that though yeah well I 761 00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:06,760 think they're primarily looking for bomb 762 00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:09,520 material so yeah yeah yeah and I don't 763 00:30:14,970 --> 00:30:13,360 know what the rule would be if you were 764 00:30:16,860 --> 00:30:14,980 caught with it I mean that you would you 765 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:16,870 would think that it's technically legal 766 00:30:19,820 --> 00:30:18,610 although at the airport you mentioned 767 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:19,830 federal lands I don't know is that 768 00:30:24,150 --> 00:30:23,050 Denver Airport is the other have it in 769 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:24,160 the airport as well that's why you have 770 00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:25,930 an amnesty box you had just stopped it 771 00:30:31,260 --> 00:30:28,510 in there and supposedly you'd forgive it 772 00:30:32,850 --> 00:30:31,270 if you did that everyone I know just 773 00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:32,860 eats it before they get on the plane so 774 00:30:41,580 --> 00:30:37,840 it's gone anyway so what give us maybe 775 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:41,590 one of the top amusing anecdotes from 776 00:30:48,270 --> 00:30:44,530 the book which by the way is called weed 777 00:30:50,670 --> 00:30:48,280 GLE eyes right yes legalized in Colorado 778 00:30:52,770 --> 00:30:50,680 true tales from the high country yeah so 779 00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:52,780 give us one true tale before we let you 780 00:31:01,380 --> 00:30:58,960 go true tale it was the nurses that I 781 00:31:04,350 --> 00:31:01,390 interviewed in the Denver area hospitals 782 00:31:05,850 --> 00:31:04,360 they had a they saw an influx of the 783 00:31:07,890 --> 00:31:05,860 emergency room visits and they'd said 784 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:07,900 you know if you're afraid it's okay do 785 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:08,690 that 786 00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:10,250 but they also had a little side humour 787 00:31:13,510 --> 00:31:11,600 with it as well because they have a some 788 00:31:15,940 --> 00:31:13,520 wash they they weren't the heavy a lava 789 00:31:17,950 --> 00:31:15,950 lamp holding room with like velvet 790 00:31:19,660 --> 00:31:17,960 coasters and Beatles music and potato 791 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:19,670 chips so we need show to the hospital 792 00:31:23,230 --> 00:31:21,650 you know I ate too much weed that's okay 793 00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:23,240 just write it out and come in here while 794 00:31:26,410 --> 00:31:24,710 stitching this little room you're gonna 795 00:31:28,390 --> 00:31:26,420 be fine you know just talk them down 796 00:31:30,580 --> 00:31:28,400 that way you never did it of course we 797 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:30,590 does think it's AI humor they had well 798 00:31:36,250 --> 00:31:33,290 it makes sense because I'm sure I've 799 00:31:37,810 --> 00:31:36,260 heard friend of friends stories about 800 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:37,820 that you know the problem with edibles 801 00:31:41,740 --> 00:31:40,370 is that you take them and for every 802 00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:41,750 person it's different how long it takes 803 00:31:45,580 --> 00:31:43,910 to kick in so we could be in a group of 804 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:45,590 four people and the other three people 805 00:31:49,270 --> 00:31:47,810 they're all kicked in your like oh gee I 806 00:31:52,660 --> 00:31:49,280 guess I didn't take enough I better take 807 00:31:55,210 --> 00:31:52,670 another one and then WHAM exactly yeah 808 00:31:57,580 --> 00:31:55,220 and and people oftentimes are taken to 809 00:31:58,210 --> 00:31:57,590 the hospital okay or they want to be 810 00:32:00,040 --> 00:31:58,220 taken 811 00:32:01,780 --> 00:32:00,050 Oh what about one thing I forgot to 812 00:32:03,610 --> 00:32:01,790 cover cover with you is the tax 813 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:03,620 situation because again in California 814 00:32:09,490 --> 00:32:06,050 that's a big issue I'm not sure exactly 815 00:32:12,340 --> 00:32:09,500 what the tax rate is I know it's so high 816 00:32:14,620 --> 00:32:12,350 that it's keeping the dealers in 817 00:32:16,930 --> 00:32:14,630 business so what what have they figured 818 00:32:19,660 --> 00:32:16,940 out about as far as the proper level to 819 00:32:22,180 --> 00:32:19,670 tax marijuana out there well taxes 820 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:22,190 marijuana for retail sales it can be 821 00:32:25,870 --> 00:32:24,410 anywhere from thirty percent I think 822 00:32:28,810 --> 00:32:25,880 it's high as thirty eight percent 823 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:28,820 depending on the town so towns could 824 00:32:32,380 --> 00:32:30,530 have a one percent tax on top and 825 00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:32,390 there's a fifteen percent sales tax and 826 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:35,360 there's a fifteen percent excise tax and 827 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:37,250 then there's another two point eight 828 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:38,930 like resort tax something like that so 829 00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:40,610 it could be the highest between thirty 830 00:32:46,930 --> 00:32:44,480 and thirty eight percent and towns can 831 00:32:48,970 --> 00:32:46,940 also essentially opt out and still 832 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:48,980 decide that it's illegal in our town yes 833 00:32:52,540 --> 00:32:51,050 there are towns that have ruled the day 834 00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:52,550 well might have dispensaries in their 835 00:32:57,340 --> 00:32:54,910 town and some towns can actually dictate 836 00:32:59,020 --> 00:32:57,350 where you can have a dispensary that you 837 00:33:00,700 --> 00:32:59,030 do not have it on Main Street you can 838 00:33:03,310 --> 00:33:00,710 have it on they out the outskirts of the 839 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:03,320 town you can't have it near a school you 840 00:33:06,340 --> 00:33:04,850 can't have any alcohol can't have any a 841 00:33:08,350 --> 00:33:06,350 police station so there are restrictions 842 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:08,360 on that as well mmm has there been any 843 00:33:14,230 --> 00:33:11,090 major cities that have said no to it 844 00:33:17,530 --> 00:33:14,240 I think bail bail there's no dispensary 845 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:17,540 in the town of Vail itself mmhmm yeah 846 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:18,850 that would be a pretty profitable 847 00:33:22,269 --> 00:33:21,170 dispensary you would say yeah yeah 848 00:33:24,909 --> 00:33:22,279 especially with you all year 849 00:33:26,889 --> 00:33:24,919 pians coming yeah III know I recall when 850 00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:26,899 I was in Vail a couple years ago there 851 00:33:30,879 --> 00:33:28,399 was talk about where our dispensary was 852 00:33:33,009 --> 00:33:30,889 and I guess it was probably right on the 853 00:33:34,450 --> 00:33:33,019 border just outside the town yeah that's 854 00:33:37,180 --> 00:33:34,460 my town but I'll stop here and get it 855 00:33:40,869 --> 00:33:37,190 first which is which is which town 856 00:33:44,499 --> 00:33:40,879 let's call it Frisco okay Frisco borders 857 00:33:46,869 --> 00:33:44,509 Vail somewhat if there's two towns you 858 00:33:48,909 --> 00:33:46,879 got Copper Mountain Resort then Vail is